July 4, 2024 • 2hr 47min

#2173 - Jimmy Dore

The Joe Rogan Experience

Jimmy Dore is a political commentator, stand-up comedian, and host of "The Jimmy Dore Show" on YouTube. He is known for his anti-establishment views and criticism of mainstream media and politicians from both major parties. In this wide-ranging conversation with Joe Rogan, Dore discusses his views on current political issues, media corruption, COVID-19 policies, censorship, and more. The discussion provides insight into Dore's political philosophy and his critiques of power structures in the US.

#2173 - Jimmy Dore

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Key Takeaways

Jimmy Dore believes the mainstream media and political establishment are deeply corrupt and misleading the public on major issues like COVID-19, Ukraine, and domestic politics
He argues that both major political parties serve corporate and billionaire interests rather than working class people
Dore sees independent media as crucial for exposing government/corporate corruption and propaganda
He believes COVID-19 policies and narratives were largely driven by pharmaceutical industry interests rather than public health
Dore is highly critical of censorship and "cancel culture", viewing them as tools to silence dissent
He sees the Ukraine conflict as driven more by US/NATO geopolitical interests than genuine concern for Ukrainians
Dore advocates for class-based political organizing across ideological lines to challenge the power of elites

Introduction

Jimmy Dore is a political commentator, stand-up comedian, and host of "The Jimmy Dore Show" on YouTube. He is known for his anti-establishment views and criticism of mainstream media and politicians from both major parties. In this wide-ranging conversation with Joe Rogan, Dore discusses his views on current political issues, media corruption, COVID-19 policies, censorship, and more. The discussion provides insight into Dore's political philosophy and his critiques of power structures in the US.

Topics Discussed

Media Corruption and Propaganda (19:38)

Dore argues that mainstream media outlets like CNN, MSNBC and Fox News function as propaganda arms for corporate and government interests rather than providing objective journalism:

"They're all the same. It's like having two divorced parents, but they both agree on sending you to military school."

He cites examples like Russiagate coverage and COVID-19 narratives as cases where media pushed misleading information to serve powerful interests. Dore sees independent media as crucial for exposing corruption and providing alternative perspectives.

Mainstream outlets often push the same narratives on key issues despite supposed ideological differences
Corporate ownership and reliance on advertising/access leads to biased coverage
Independent media can more freely challenge official narratives

COVID-19 Policies and Narratives (37:04)

Dore is highly critical of government COVID-19 policies and mainstream media coverage of the pandemic. He argues that pharmaceutical industry interests drove much of the response rather than public health concerns:

"They're not funding the news organization's investigation, they're funding their non-investigation. Right. They're like, this is money, so you don't f**king investigate us."

Questions effectiveness and necessity of lockdowns, masks, and vaccine mandates
Believes early treatment options were suppressed to promote vaccines
Criticizes censorship of dissenting medical opinions
Sees pandemic as exploited for profit and control

Censorship and Cancel Culture (1:15:14)

Dore strongly opposes censorship and "cancel culture", viewing them as tools to silence dissent and protect powerful interests:

"The hallmark of authoritarian dictators is censorship. And they got people who consider themselves progressive to be for it."

Argues censorship is antithetical to progressive values
Sees tech companies and government collaborating to restrict speech
Believes cancel culture is often weaponized against critics of establishment
Advocates for more open debate and free speech

Ukraine Conflict (1:18:25)

Dore views the Ukraine conflict as driven more by US/NATO geopolitical interests than genuine concern for Ukrainians:

"This is all about an upward transfer of money. This is about balkanizing countries and turning it over to Blackrock and Vanguard. That's what this is about."

Argues US provoked conflict through NATO expansion
Sees war as benefiting weapons manufacturers and other corporate interests
Criticizes lack of diplomatic efforts to end fighting
Questions mainstream media narratives about the conflict

Political Corruption and Corporate Influence (1:37:00)

Dore argues that both major US political parties primarily serve corporate and billionaire interests rather than working class people:

"The democratic party is now the establishment party. Yeah, and it used to be the other way. The democratic party used to be the party that represented workers and was against the billionaire class."

Sees little meaningful difference between Democrats and Republicans on key economic issues
Argues campaign finance and lobbying lead to policies favoring wealthy
Criticizes figures like Obama and Clinton for serving corporate interests
Advocates for class-based political organizing across ideological lines

Media Figures and Hypocrisy (1:59:12)

Dore criticizes mainstream media figures like Rachel Maddow, Chris Cuomo and others for what he sees as hypocrisy and serving establishment interests:

"Rachel Maddow does Russiagate, lies about Ukraine, lies about Libya, lies about Syria and she gets $100,000 a day."

Argues many media figures push propaganda while posing as journalists
Criticizes high salaries of network anchors as corrupting influence
Sees hypocrisy in how different political figures are covered
Believes many media figures are detached from working class concerns

Biden Administration and 2024 Election (2:26:40)

Dore is highly critical of Joe Biden and skeptical of his ability to serve as president:

"I think he's dying. I mean, he had two brain surgeries. He had a brain surgery where they literally cut the top of your head off."

Questions Biden's mental fitness and believes he may have dementia
Criticizes Biden's policy record on issues like crime, bankruptcy, war
Skeptical that Biden will be 2024 nominee despite his insistence
Sees Democratic establishment as desperate to prevent Trump return

Future of Politics and Media (2:45:18)

Dore expresses both pessimism and hope about the future of US politics and media:

"I think there has to be a, you know, like you say, there's an awakening of people realizing that they're being screwed over by a billionaire class, that it's international, right?"

Believes more people are waking up to corruption and propaganda
Sees independent media as key to exposing truth
Advocates for class-based organizing across ideological lines
Hopes for mass movements to challenge power structures

Conclusion

Jimmy Dore presents a scathing critique of the US political and media establishment, arguing that both major parties and mainstream outlets primarily serve corporate interests rather than the public good. He sees independent media as crucial for exposing corruption and providing alternative perspectives on major issues. While highly critical of the status quo, Dore expresses hope that growing awareness of systemic problems could lead to positive change through mass movements and class-based organizing. His views represent a populist, anti-establishment perspective that is skeptical of official narratives on issues ranging from foreign policy to public health.