June 4, 2024 • 2hr 47min

#2160 - Billy Carson

The Joe Rogan Experience

This episode features a wide-ranging discussion between Joe Rogan and Billy Carson, the founder of 4BiddenKnowledge Inc. and the "4BiddenKnowledge" podcast. The conversation covers topics related to ancient civilizations, advanced technologies, extraterrestrial contact, and alternative perspectives on human history and origins.

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Key Takeaways

There is growing evidence that ancient civilizations like Sumer had advanced knowledge and technology that challenges conventional historical narratives.
The Sumerian King List and other ancient texts describe rulers with lifespans of thousands of years, suggesting a much longer human history than commonly accepted.
Artifacts and archaeological sites like Göbekli Tepe and Mohenjo-daro show signs of advanced construction and potential use of advanced energy technologies.
The guests discuss the possibility that ancient humans were genetically modified or engineered by advanced extraterrestrial or interdimensional beings.
There are many unexplained phenomena like UFOs, "Marfa lights", and ancient depictions of advanced technology that suggest a hidden history of human-alien interaction.
The guests are skeptical of mainstream historical and scientific narratives, believing they are often used to obscure or discredit alternative explanations for humanity's origins and development.

Introduction

This episode features a wide-ranging discussion between Joe Rogan and Billy Carson, the founder of 4BiddenKnowledge Inc. and the "4BiddenKnowledge" podcast. The conversation covers topics related to ancient civilizations, advanced technologies, extraterrestrial contact, and alternative perspectives on human history and origins.

Topics Discussed

Ancient Sumerian Texts and Artifacts (8:03)

The guests discuss the Sumerian King List, an ancient Mesopotamian text that describes rulers with lifespans of thousands of years. They suggest this points to a much longer human history than the conventional 6,000-year timeline derived from the Bible.

The Sumerian King List describes kings who ruled for tens of thousands of years, with some reigning for over 28,000 years.
The guests propose this indicates the Sumerians had knowledge of a much more ancient human civilization predating the biblical timeline.
They also discuss ancient Sumerian texts like the Enuma Elish that describe advanced technologies and interactions with extraterrestrial or interdimensional beings called the Anunnaki.

Göbekli Tepe and Advanced Ancient Construction (20:38)

The guests explore archaeological sites like Göbekli Tepe in Turkey, which features massive, precisely carved stone structures dating back over 11,000 years.

Göbekli Tepe challenges the conventional view of early human civilization, as the site demonstrates advanced construction capabilities far beyond what was thought possible for hunter-gatherers at that time.
The guests suggest this and other ancient megalithic sites point to the existence of a lost, highly advanced civilization predating the rise of ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia.

Mohenjo-daro and Evidence of Ancient Catastrophe (33:44)

The guests discuss the ancient Indus Valley site of Mohenjo-daro, which shows signs of a possible ancient catastrophic event.

Mohenjo-daro features buildings and human remains that appear to have been subjected to extreme heat, with some bodies found in positions suggesting a sudden, violent demise.
The guests propose this could be evidence of an ancient nuclear or directed energy weapon attack, as described in ancient Indian texts like the Mahabharata.
They suggest this catastrophe may have been part of a broader ancient global conflict between advanced civilizations, as hinted at in various ancient mythologies and texts.

Genetic Modification of Humans by the Anunnaki (1:26:10)

The guests explore the idea that ancient humans were genetically modified or engineered by the Anunnaki, the advanced extraterrestrial or interdimensional beings described in Sumerian texts.

They discuss how the Sumerian texts describe the Anunnaki creating humans as a slave race to mine resources, and how this could explain the sudden emergence of advanced human capabilities.
The guests suggest the Anunnaki may have intentionally limited human lifespan and capabilities through genetic manipulation, as described in the biblical story of the Tower of Babel.
They propose this genetic engineering could account for the dramatic evolutionary leap between early hominids and modern humans, which is not easily explained by the conventional Darwinian model of gradual evolution.

UFOs, Extraterrestrial Contact, and Advanced Technology (1:39:25)

The guests discuss various accounts and evidence of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and potential extraterrestrial contact throughout history.

They describe personal experiences and eyewitness accounts of strange aerial phenomena, including the guest's own sighting as a child.
The guests suggest that governments and militaries may have reverse-engineered advanced extraterrestrial technologies, as hinted at in programs like the alleged "Aviary" and "Serpo" projects.
They propose that ancient texts and artifacts may contain clues about past interactions between humans and advanced extraterrestrial or interdimensional civilizations.

Skepticism Towards Mainstream Historical and Scientific Narratives (1:55:25)

Throughout the discussion, the guests express a general skepticism towards conventional historical and scientific explanations, believing they are often used to obscure or discredit alternative perspectives.

They suggest that mainstream academia and institutions have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo and suppressing information that challenges dominant narratives.
The guests believe that many unexplained phenomena and historical anomalies are dismissed or ignored by the scientific establishment in order to preserve existing paradigms.
They advocate for a more open-minded and interdisciplinary approach to exploring humanity's origins and the possibility of advanced ancient civilizations and extraterrestrial contact.

Conclusion

This episode delves deep into the alternative historical and archaeological perspectives championed by Billy Carson and others who believe that conventional narratives about human origins and development are incomplete or inaccurate. The guests present a compelling case for the existence of highly advanced ancient civilizations, genetic engineering of humans by extraterrestrial or interdimensional beings, and the suppression of evidence that challenges mainstream historical and scientific views.

While many of the ideas discussed are speculative and controversial, the guests provide a thought-provoking exploration of the possibility that humanity's history is far more complex and ancient than commonly accepted. The conversation encourages a critical examination of established paradigms and an openness to alternative explanations supported by archaeological, textual, and anecdotal evidence. Ultimately, this episode highlights the ongoing debate surrounding humanity's origins and the potential for a hidden history of advanced ancient cultures and extraterrestrial contact.