July 4, 2024 • 34min
Masters of Scale
This episode features Ron Howard, the legendary director, producer, actor and co-founder of Imagine Entertainment. Ron shares how he has balanced staying true to his creative vision while embracing change throughout his career in Hollywood. The conversation explores how Ron has navigated technological shifts, changing audience tastes, and industry disruptions to consistently bring his vision for storytelling to life across multiple decades.
Ron Howard describes his early passion for filmmaking, even as a child actor in Hollywood. He shares an anecdote about making a documentary for a high school history project:
This project was part of Ron's long-term vision to become a filmmaker. As he says: "Even though I was a child of Hollywood, I was always interested in independent film production. I had this fire in the belly and a real passion for the medium."
Despite his acting success, Ron felt behind on his filmmaking goals by age 22. He explains:
Ron got creative to make his directorial debut, leveraging an acting opportunity with Roger Corman to get a chance to direct. As Ron recalls: "When I went in for the final meeting, I had to actually tell my agent not to come up with me because I knew he was going to barter for money. I didn't care about the money. I cared about the director's chair."
Ron partnered with producer Brian Grazer to found Imagine Entertainment in 1985 after the success of their film Splash. Ron explains their vision:
As Ron says: "There was no sort of secret formula to Imagine other than our personal taste and this sort of belief that we could, between us, tell stories that would reach an audience."
Ron describes how Imagine's business model was disrupted by rising actor salaries after Bruce Willis was paid $6 million for Die Hard. This forced them to adapt their approach. Additionally, their distribution partner wanted creative control and for Imagine to expand into radio, which didn't align with their vision.
Ron explains their response: "Well, that's not what either of us wanted. We were not distribution. We were the storytellers. And that's the way we wanted it."
Ron shares how he learned to embrace new filmmaking technologies, even when he didn't fully understand them:
As Ron says: "People think of me as somebody who's very tech savvy. Fact is not so much, but a fascination with it and a love of collaborating and understanding what this is making possible."
In 1992, Ron and Brian took Imagine private again to refocus on their creative vision:
Ron reflects: "Fortunately, we hit an incredible hot streak...and it turned out to be a good move for us."
Ron describes Imagine's early foray into online video with Pop.com:
Though Pop.com failed, it led to new ideas. As Ron explains: "Even though Pop.com shuttered, I thought, there's an aesthetic here...that would really work for a half hour comedy." This eventually inspired Arrested Development.
Ron discusses the challenges of scaling Imagine Entertainment:
As Ron says: "In order to scale, we now need them to do projects that our fingerprints are on, but we're not necessarily controlling, you know, and that's not something that we're necessarily comfortable with."
Ron describes Imagine's Impact program to support emerging filmmakers:
Ron reflects: "The idea was to not only find gems and help get them made, but also to help launch people. A byproduct of it was tremendous diversity."
Ron shares an anecdote about his recent film 13 Lives, which features extensive subtitled dialogue:
As Ron says: "I realized that Squid Game, Narcos, these shows are big hits, and they've taught people the cultural value of actually allowing yourself to hear people act in their own voice and in their own language. I was kind of blown away by that."
Ron discusses how new filmmaking technologies have expanded creative possibilities:
Ron reflects: "It's made it easier to not only get what a director has in his or her mind onto the screen, but also for actors to create these really memorable moments. The toolbox is just expanding."
Throughout his career, Ron Howard has successfully navigated massive changes in the entertainment industry while staying true to his core vision as a storyteller. By embracing new technologies, adapting to shifting audience tastes, and empowering other creators, Ron has been able to consistently bring compelling human stories to life across multiple decades and mediums. His journey demonstrates how visionary leaders can harness change to refine and scale their unique creative visions, rather than being derailed by disruption. The key is to remain focused on your core mission and values, while being flexible in how you bring that vision to life as the world changes around you.