November 8, 2021 • 1hr 28min
Huberman Lab
In this episode, Andrew Huberman interviews Dr. Duncan French, Vice President of Performance at the UFC Performance Institute. Dr. French has over 20 years of experience working with elite athletes across many sports, including 14 years with the British Olympic program. He has a PhD in exercise physiology, specializing in the hormonal responses to resistance training. The conversation covers a wide range of topics related to optimizing human performance, with a focus on MMA fighters but with broad applicability to anyone interested in improving their fitness and health.
Dr. French explains how resistance training can increase testosterone levels through both mechanical stress (heavy loads) and metabolic stress (high volume). The ideal protocol they used in research was:
This combination of intensity and volume creates the optimal hormonal response. Longer rest periods or lower volume (e.g. 10 sets of 6 reps) does not produce the same metabolic stress and testosterone increase.
"It's largely driven by both an intensity and a volume factor...We formulated that kind of exercise protocol to really target the release of testosterone and try and drive up these anabolic environments."
Short-term stress and arousal can actually increase testosterone levels and enhance performance. Dr. French's PhD work looked at how pre-workout anxiety and arousal affected hormones and subsequent performance:
However, chronic long-term stress has negative effects on hormones and performance. The key is being able to ramp up arousal for training/competition and then return to a calm state for recovery.
Cold exposure (ice baths, cold showers) is a form of stress that can have both positive and negative effects:
"You have to be strategic about when you use some of these interventions. The time when you're preparing for a competition is the appropriate time...when you want to drive recovery and make sure that your body is optimized."
For developing sport-specific skills and techniques:
"The best coaches understand that it's quality over quantity when it comes to skill acquisition...They should leave the training session not necessarily just physically fatigued, but mentally fatigued because they're completely engaged in the learning process."
Dr. French discusses matching nutrition to training goals:
"We use tactics here where we essentially have athletes on what you would say is largely a ketogenic diet. But then we will fuel carbohydrates around training sessions...We're trying to be very tactical in the exposure to maximize the intensity for the training and then return to a metabolically efficient diet."
Dr. French explains their protocol for heat acclimation using sauna exposure:
"We try to work up to 30 to 40 minutes to 45 minutes in the sauna, continuous...We kind of found about 14 sauna exposures starts to really then drive the adaptations that we're looking for."
Dr. French discusses the unique challenges of preparing MMA fighters:
"The degrees of freedom in mixed martial arts are exponential, like no other sport...The considerations that you have to make are unprecedented compared to any other sport that I've worked with."
Dr. French explains their overall philosophy:
"We talk about adaptation led programming. Now, adaptation led programming fits into every single category, not just lifting weights or running track. It fits into nutrition, it fits into sitting in the sauna, it fits into being in a cold bath or not. It fits into so many different things because we're driven by scientific insights."
This wide-ranging conversation provides numerous insights into optimizing human performance, from the hormonal effects of resistance training to nutrition periodization to heat acclimation. While focused on elite MMA fighters, many of the principles discussed can be applied by anyone looking to improve their fitness and health. Key themes include matching training and nutrition to specific goals, balancing stress and recovery, and taking an individualized, science-based approach to programming. The UFC Performance Institute is pushing the boundaries of human performance, with potential applications far beyond just fighting.